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Hi All, My name is John and I live in Lond Island NY. It is great to be a new member of USA Flag. I recently just purchased a flag ...
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    S&S22 is offline Junior Member
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    Hi All,
    My name is John and I live in Lond Island NY. It is great to be a new member of USA Flag. I recently just purchased a flag that sounds alot like the one that was posted on 3/7/09 by fellow USA Flag member newblue44.
    Can anyone shed some light on this type of flag,and is newblue44 still a member. I would be interested in comparing the two flags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&S22 View Post
    Hi All,
    I recently just purchased a flag that sounds alot like the one that was posted on 3/7/09 by fellow USA Flag member newblue44.
    Can anyone shed some light on this type of flag,and is newblue44 still a member. I would be interested in comparing the two flags.
    Hello S&S22. Welcome to the forum. Is your flag also a 38-star flag of woolen bunting with cotton stars? Can you post a picture or two of the flag? Are there any markings on the heading? What would you like to know about your flag?
    Nick

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    Default Re: 38 Star Flag

    All,

    I moved the two preceding posts here from the "New Member Intro" section, so that the discussion of S&S22's flag won't get tangled up with the intros.

    And now, back to your regularly scheduled Forum . . .

    Peter Ansoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAVA1974 View Post
    Hello S&S22. Welcome to the forum. Is your flag also a 38-star flag of woolen bunting with cotton stars? Can you post a picture or two of the flag? Are there any markings on the heading? What would you like to know about your flag?
    Nick
    Hi Nick - Can you please tell me how to post pictures on the site.

    Thank's
    John S&S22

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    "Can you please tell me how to post pictures on the site."

    Go to the bottom of this thread and click "Post Reply." (NOT "Post Quick Reply") That will give you a box to put your message in. At the top of that box are some icons, one of which is a paperclip that you can use to attach a photo. Try that and see if it works.
    Nick

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    Default Re: 38 Star Flag

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    Greetings, S&S22 !

    Welcome to the USA-Flag-Site Forums !


    This particular thread has been placed in the "Flag Identification and Collecting" Forum.

    The "Flag Identification and Collecting" Index Page can be found HERE :
    http://www.usa-flag-site.org/forum/flag-identification-and-collecting/

    The very first thread listed in the index for the "Flag Identification and Collecting" Forums is a "Sticky" thread titled, "How to include a photo in your posts".

    The "How to include a photo in your posts" thread can be found HERE :
    http://www.usa-flag-site.org/forum/how-to-include-photo-your-posts-2820.html


    IF you want your photos to be part of one of your entries (instead of appearing as links) you can find out how to do that by reading an entry that I posted HERE (At the TOP of Page TWO) :
    http://www.usa-flag-site.org/forum/45-star-flag-1902-a-846-2.html

    NOTE : There are several replies further down on the page, so you might want to read the whole thing.


    GOOD LUCK !!!


    And Thank You for bringing your Flag-related question to our Forums !


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    Hi Nick - Sorry for the delay in posting my pic's but here it goes. If you recieve them any info. would be much appreciated.

    Thank's
    John S&S22

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    Hi,
    Thanks for posting those pics.
    I saw that flag when it appeared on eBay. Woolen bunting with cotton stars and heading. Made 1877-1889. Very common size for flying from buildings. Is there any information printed or written on the heading? Did you get any provenance with the flag? If not then there is very little chance of determining where the flag was used as there were tens, if not hundreds of thousands of flags made during the 38-star flag era. I have examples ranging in size from less than two inches long to about 20 feet long. I also have one very similar to yours. Paid $225 for it about 20 years ago as it was in superior condition.
    Nick

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    Hello, My name is Stevan 10yrs. ago I acquired a 10', 38 star, 13 stripe flag. Just recently I've tried to research this flag online and can't seem to fine one. The stars are arranged differently. Viewing them vertically they start with 4/5/5/5/5/5/5/4. All stars are directly over one another. Not staggered. The hanging border is 2" canvas, w/ 3 brass eyelets. stenciled on the border is Patented April 26, 1870. 10-FT. On other side of border is, P.V.T.-1941, VAIL+,the word Shedd is hand-written. Also there is A 1x4 Hand sewn tag with hand writing I can't make out. I think it says Gray because I see some faint writing that looks like Gray 32nd on opposite side. Hope this isn't to confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevan View Post
    I acquired a 10', 38 star, 13 stripe flag... stenciled on the border is Patented April 26, 1870. 10-FT.
    I bet your 38 star flag is press-dyed (also known as clamp-dyed) and the three sections (canton and two sections of the stripes) are hand stitched together to form the flag. It is made of woolen bunting and was manufactured by the U.S. Bunting Company of Lowell, Massachusetts, the company that held that April 26, 1870 patent for press-dyeing flags. General Benjamin Butler was a principal of the firm. He was also a representative from Massachusetts to Congress, and was instrumental in getting a law passed that gave preference to flags made of American made bunting.

    I have two press dyed flags from the American Bunting Co. on my Flickr Photostream Flickr: nicka21045's Photostream One is a 37-star flag and the other is a 13-star Boat Flag.

    Let me know if your flag matches my description.

    Nick

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