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Old 06-26-2009, 09:18 AM
Peter Ansoff Peter Ansoff is offline
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Default Re: Gold fringe

Hello, False_Flag,

FF: ALL branches of the US armed forces DO indeed follow AR840-10.

I would suggest that you follow your own advice, and read the documents that you are citing. AR840-10 is an Army Regulation, and it applies to the Army. This is made very clear in the regulation itself:

"Applicability.
This regulation applies to the Active Army, the Army National Guard of the United States and the U.S. Army Reserve."

"1–1. Purpose
This regulation prescribes the design, acquisition, display, disposition, and use of flags, guidons, streamers, automobile and aircraft plates, and tabards by Department of the Army (DA) organizations and personnel. It is the authority for these items and their basis of issue. It also describes the flags used by the President, Vice President, officials of the Department of Defense (DOD), and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS)."

Of course, it covers the flags of the President, the Vice-President, and DOD officials, because the Army frequently interacts with those officials in ceremonies, parades, etc. For the same reason, the regulation discusses usage of foreign national flags and flags of international organizations such as the United Nations, NATO and the Red Cross. Each of the other armed services has its own regulations. For example, the Marine Corps Flag Manual (MCO 10520.3B) says: "a. The use of fringe on national colors or standards within the Marine Corps is prohibited." The Army uses fringes on its national colors, and the Marines don't. Army Regulations are just that -- regulations for the Army.

FF: The current Flag replaced the original USA Flag design after the Civil War. You can see pictures on google of the original style US Flag that the US Coast Guard flew upon thier vessels (Research the history of the Pledge of Allegence, and you will see the ORIGINAL USA Flag), and was used up until about 1913.

This is complete nonsense. The US flag was created by the Continental Congress in 1777, and modified by Congress in 1794 and 1818. The current defintion of the flag in 4 USC 1 is the same as the 1818 Congressional resolution, except for the change to the number of stars.

FF: Please read President Eisenhowers 1959 Executive Order # 10834, which was signed on 8/21/59, and was printed in the Federal Register @ F.R. 6865. It states: " A miltary flag [IS] a flag that (resembles) the flag of the US, except that [IT] has a Yellow Fringe Border on 3 Sides".

Once again, I suggest that you follow your own advice, and read EO 10834. When you do, you will discover that the above quote is fake. The EO does not say anything at all about fringes.

FF: That also means, everytime you, as an American National go into ANY court in the civilian world, and there is a yellow fringed flag standing (and there ALWAYS is) in the court room, you ARE in a Military Court, in a Military Courts Martial. And you ARE under the "law of the flag".

This is more nonsense. Legal jurisdiction is based on law and precedent, not on mysterious symbolism.

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