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I need the document to provide for the Public and Organization about the order of raising flag. For National Anthem with Republic of Vietnam and the United States. Which one ...
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    I need the document to provide for the Public and Organization about the order of raising flag. For National Anthem with Republic of Vietnam and the United States. Which one should raise first ?

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    I need the document to provide for the Public and Organization about the order of raising flag. For National Anthem with Republic of Vietnam and the United States. Which one should raise first ?

    Hi! This is a somewhat complicated situation, and we need some more information before we can sort it out. Could you tell us a little more about the ceremony? Does it involve actually raising the flags, or will they be raised before it starts (normally, they're flown from 8 AM until sunset). Is it a military or civilian ceremony, and are diplomatic representatives involved? The last question is important, because the Republic of Vietnam ("South Vietnam") is no longer a nation, although its flag is still recognized in some US jurisdictions as representing Vietnamese heritage.

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    Hi, Team723 !

    Welcome to the USA-Flag-site Forums !


    I know this will seem to be a really "dumb" question but the answer could make a HUGE difference !!!


    In WHICH country will the ceremony take place: Viet Nam or The United States ???


    Thank You for bringing your Flag-related question to our Forums !


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    The Vietnamese Community in the United States needs to know in the Ceremony they do have to raise the FLAG and sing the National Anthem.

    For ordering which National Anthem with Flag is First to raise and sing and Which one in Second in the ceremony ?
    for United States and Republic Of Vietnam

    Do you have any document ? for this Protocol procedure ?
    Please e-mail to hoavanpham@yahoo.com

    We would appriciate very much .

    Thanks

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    Peter Ansoff is offline USA Flag Site Admin
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    Hello, Team723,

    The US flag should be hoisted first, and lowered last. The reference is 4 USC 1 Section 7 (f), which says:

    "When flags of States, cities, or localities, or pennants of societies are flown on the same halyard with the flag of the United States, the latter should always be at the peak. When the flags are flown from adjacent staffs, the flag of the United States should be hoisted first and lowered last"

    The RVN flag is not a national flag, although it is recongnized as a "heritage flag" in many places, including here in my state of Virginia. While it is not technically the "pennant" of a "society," similar protocol would apply.

    Peter Ansoff
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    Thank You for reply.
    For example,
    National Anthem the event toghether with Canadian National Anthem and United States National Anthem
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    Which one need to go first ?

    Thanks for the help

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    Default Re: Ordering of rasing the flag with another country

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    In WHICH country will the ceremony take place: Viet Nam or The United States ???
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    The Ceremony take place in the United States
    Thank You

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    National Anthem the event toghether with Canadian National Anthem and United States National Anthem Question Which one need to go first ?

    This question is not covered in the civilian flag code. However, it is addressed in military regulations. Generally, when the national anthems of other countries are played, the US anthem should be *last*. There is more detail about this in one of my earlier posts, here:

    Etiquette for Singing Various Anthems

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