[bobdenn]

Hello folks!

I have a 4-star President's flag...great condition 64"x 44"...how collectible is this flag, more or less? It.s cotton, no fringe...from Dad's belongings. I know they went to 5-stars...
Thanks

[csaanv]

Can you upload a picture for us? If you send it to me I will do it for you. Thanks!

[csaanv]

Here is my email: emmalpass@yahoo.com

[csaanv]

Here are the photos of the 1945 President's flag.
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[Robin Hickman]

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Early 1900's President's Flag with four grommets in the hoist "header".

early 1900s photo President's flag - eBay (item 300418187060 end time Jun-14-10 15:41:44 PDT)





Robin Hickman
Eugene, Oregon, USA
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[Robin Hickman]

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Wikipedia has a nice article written (or compiled) about the "Presidential Standard" :

Flag of the President of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


It still doesn't answer the question about the relative "value" of BobDenn's flag, but it's a start.....

So, if I'm understanding it correctly, the "4 Star" flag was in "effect" for approximately 29 1/2 years, from May 29, 1916 (Wilson's Executive Order 2930) to October 25, 1945 (per Truman's E.O. 9646). After that, the Presidential Standard used a ring of 48 Stars, then 49, and now 50.

I find it somewhat interesting that the "Presidential Standard" uses an approximately 2:3 (hoist-to-fly) ratio, as the 1916 EO lists the size as 10.2' x 16' (as per the 1978 book, "The Eagle and the Shield"), rather than the more "official" 1:1.9 ratio.


Maybe President Truman wanted more Stars on HIS Flag than Gen. Douglas MacArthur had on his (5) ???


Robin "Stars In My Eyes" Hickman
Eugene, Oregon, USA

PS. Yes I know that Truman's 1945 EO pre-dates The Korean War (60th Anniversary coming later this month!) and his "troubles" with MacArthur.
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[NAVA1974]

Originally Posted by Robin Hickman

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Maybe President Truman wanted more Stars on HIS Flag than Gen. Douglas MacArthur had on his (5) ?

Actually it was Franklin Roosevelt who appointed George C. Marshall as a 5-star general and thought it odd that the General's flag had more stars than his (FDR's.). The design was essentially complete when Roosevelt died in April of 1945. Truman wanted an alteration to the seal, though. After the atomic bombs were used to end the war with Japan, Truman wanted to have lightning bolts added to the seal and flag to symbolize this awesome nuclear power. Cooler heads prevailed, fortunately, and the arms remained unaltered.
Nick

[Robin Hickman]

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I Knew I'd heard "something" like that SOMEWHERE, but I just couldn't remember WHO or WHEN !!!


THANX !!!


Robin
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[NAVA1974]

Originally Posted by Robin Hickman

THANX !!!
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You are most welcome.

BTW I have posted a few more flags and flag related items on my Flickr photostream. I concentrated on Civil War flag ephemera:

Flickr: nicka21045's Photostream

Nick

[csaanv]

Great stuff Nick! Thanks!