13-star medallion pattern flag - help in dating, pls!

Discussion in 'Flag Identification and Collecting' started by seletts, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. seletts

    seletts New Member

    This flag has been in my family for generations and was found in a trunk with other military items belonging to family members. It appears to be hand-woven, hand-sewn (don't know what type cloth), 13-stars in a medallion pattern with a large central star. The flag is on the small side, measuring about 18 inches tall by 33 wide. It hung over my grandmother's mantel for decades. Here is a link to photos: Pictures by seletts - Photobucket
     
  2. csaanv

    csaanv Member

    Awesome flag! Quite a famly treasure.
     
  3. NAVA1974

    NAVA1974 Active Member

    I will second that. That wool appears to be of pre Civil War vintage. The hand stitching appears very fine and tight. The flag overall was well made.

    Please have that flag assessed by a professional flag textile conservator to get an estimate of the date and some advice on how to preserve it. Having it framed in glass and exposed to light will just allow further deterioration. It needs at a minimum conservation framing with UV resistant plexiglass.

    Thanks for the good photos!

    Nick A
    Columbia MD
     
  4. seletts

    seletts New Member

    Members - thank you for the encouragement and advice! I will definitely take it! Do either of you - or anyone else on this forum for that matter - know when "medallion pattern" flags first showed up? I had read that they were common around the Centennial but I could not find anything indicating when the pattern first became common - was it a Navy pattern (I saw some that had anchors in the center)? I'm excited to do further research and any advice you can give on people who do the kind of restoration and identification (dating) would be appreciated. If you have website links to send me to, or names, that you cannot put on the forum, please feel free to email me: seletts@yahoo.com
     
  5. csaanv

    csaanv Member

    Last edited: Aug 28, 2011
  6. AmericaHurrah

    AmericaHurrah Member

  7. AmericaHurrah

    AmericaHurrah Member

    How is it the the photo changed on this flag? I viewed it before and saw a different flag with writing on the sleeve, that is now in Anthony Iasso's collection.

    The photo I am viewing now is either Civil War period or pre-war, but I'd guess war-period. Why? Because, to answer your question, the medallion pattern with a star in each corner really isn't seen before the war. I am not saying that it could not appear, but it is generally not seen with a star in each corner pre-war.

    Also, the wool bunting looks war-period to me from the photos. War-period 13 star flags are usually hand-sewn and they hardly ever have grommets--instead they have hand-sewn, whip-stitched ones, like this flag, or a sewn-in rope hoist.
     
  8. AmericaHurrah

    AmericaHurrah Member

    Ahhh, I see one of the members posted a photo of Anthony's flag. Mystery solved. My previous response was about his flag.
     

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