Help with 13 star flag please

Discussion in 'Flag Identification and Collecting' started by fromme, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. fromme

    fromme New Member


    Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me figure out a date on this flag? I know it's not from the 1700's cause it's machine sewn. From the reasearch I've done, I think machine sewing started around 1850. Also it has metal grommets and I think they also were around in the mid to later 1800's. The flag and repairs look old but was wondering if any of you could give an approximate date from the material and stiching.

    Pictures 77 and 82 give pretty good close ups of the material and if you click on the picture once you get there it will enlarge it even more

    Thanks a bunch and here's the links
  2. NAVA1974

    NAVA1974 Active Member

    Hi. The zig zag stitching of the stars places the earliest possible date of manufacture in the 1892-1893 range. The cotton bunting leads me to estimate the actual date to be closer to the 1920's or perhaps as late as George Washington's Bicentennial in 1932.
  3. fromme

    fromme New Member

    Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. I didn't even know there was a Geroge Washington bicentenniel in 1932

  4. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    I didn't even know there was a Geroge Washington bicentenniel in 1932

    What -- you mean you missed it? I guess you'll just have to wait for the tricentennial in 2032! (-;

    An interesting note about Washington's birthday is that, if there had been a calendar on the wall in the room when he was born, it would have said that the date was February 11th, 1731. He was born before England and he colonies converted from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar in 1752. At the time of the conversion, they skipped ahead 11 days to give the Gregorian date of February 22nd. Under the Julian calendar, New Year's Day was on the 25th of March, so that events occuring between January 1st and March 24th were shifted a year when the change occured.

    Columbus Day also celebrates an event that took place before the calendar change in 1752. However, we celebrate it on the original Julian date that Columbus recorded in his journal. I'm not sure why we don't convert it like we do Washington's Birthday. The reason may be that the Gregorian calendar itself was not introduced until 1582, when it was adopted by Spain and other Catholic countries.

    Peter Ansoff

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