Were there 52 states?

Discussion in 'American Flag History' started by EmailPoster, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    I think that we should appoint Robin to process the spam moderation for this thread!!

    Seriously, though, the forum does get a lot of traffic. The thread on half-staffing the flag for McNamara has only been up for a few days, and it's received over 1500 hits. An optimistic interpretation is that people are turning to us as a source of information, which is a good thing.

    Peter Ansoff
     
  2. Robin Hickman

    Robin Hickman Well-Known Member

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    Silly ME !

    TRIX are for kids !


    It also helps when you add a "trackback" using a search website and the word "flag". Well, at least I think it does. I don't know for sure.

    I added a "trackback" to "Bing.com" with this entry.

    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Flag&go=&form=QBRE

    You can see how many and "what" trackbacks have already been added to this thread when you click "reply", then scroll down below the "message" entry box. There's already a couple to Google.com.


    I'd been considering doing a "TEST" by starting two (2) identical threads and adding search site "trackbacks" to one, but not the other. Just curious about it, that's all.

    Robin Hickman
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  3. JHubb

    JHubb New Member

    Such an interesting read ! I googled 52 states because my husband and I can both remember at some point in school being taught that there were 52 states. Though they were not on the flag. We are both Americans and went to school here in America. We are both in our 40's. I'm not sure when we realized there were only 50. Obviously there was some confusion on our part, but we both remember being taught about 52 states. (we lived in different towns and went to different schools) I know it isn't taught that way now. We were just curious if anyone else remembered learning it that way. Interesting.
     
  4. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    Hi, JHubb, welcome to the forum!

    It's quite baffling how this 52-state thing keeps turning up. My hypothesis is that it relates to the admission of Alaska and Hawaii in 1959. People remember that the number of states increased by two, and (without thinking about it) apply the "plus two" idea to 50 instead of 48.

    Others here have suggested that it might have to do with the District of Columbia and/or one of the 5 US Territories, but I think most people know that they are not states.

    We've also heard stories from other nations about the 52-state business -- it's turned up in Iceland, New Zealand and Pakistan, for example.

    Peter Ansoff
     
  5. Robin Hickman

    Robin Hickman Well-Known Member

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    It seems like a "reasonable" hypothesis to me.


    Unless, of course, they were all confused by decks of playing cards (52 cards - NOT counting "Jokers"!) or Calendars (52 weeks in a year) !!! :eek:


    Or maybe it was all stared years ago as some kind of cockamamie conspiracy theory concocted by an ultra-secret "golden fringe" group "out there"... :eek: :eek: :eek:




    Or maybe . . . . .




    ROBIN
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  6. or maybe they were counting the 2 underwater states :p
     
  7. Robin Hickman

    Robin Hickman Well-Known Member

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    D'Oh !!! :eek:


    How on Earth could I have forgotten the two UNDERWATER States ??? :eek:


    D'Oh !!! :eek:



    Robin

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  8. NAVA1974

    NAVA1974 Active Member

    Robin, how could you have possibly forgotten TennesSEA and WET Virginia??

    Nick
     
  9. bronny49

    bronny49 New Member

    Robin:

    Your latest posting on this is funny.

    Some additional facts: There are 5 "delegates" in Congress who have offices, staff and committee assignments but they cannot vote when Congress is is formal session. The piece of Maryland that has been the District of Columbia has one. The Territories are: Puerto Rico (the largest and oldest in status), Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas (whose Delegate joined the current Congress for the first time).

    All person born in those 4 territories are citizens of USA. Those persons who were permanent residents of CNMI became citizens when those islands became a Territory.

    Ron Bowers
    Timonium, Maryland
     
  10. bronny49

    bronny49 New Member

    Folks:

    Like the President, I can't count right. I was thinking of the 4 Territories before this current Congress - there are now 5 Territories besides DC with Delegates to Congress.

    Ron B
     
  11. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    Or maybe it was all stared years ago as some kind of cockamamie conspiracy theory concocted by an ultra-secret "golden fringe" group "out there"...

    Egad! I think that Robin has figured this out. The other two states are hidden, but you know you're in one of them when you see a gold fringe on the flag. That explains it all!!!

    Peter Ansoff
     
  12. bronny49

    bronny49 New Member

    I think he's got it! The conspirators with the golden fringe flag! Wasn't this groulp formed during the first montnhs of the Kennedy adminsitration? Weren't they the ones who decided that a baby born in one of those hidden states August 4 1961 would have a phony record made up and then he would be secretly trained to be President so that he could turn the nation into a socialist country? I think I have seen some of that disclosed recently.

    As Jay Leno has shown us, many Americans are ignorant - some can't answer the old joke question: Who is buried in Grant's tomb?

    Ron
     
  13. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    Weren't they the ones who decided that a baby born in one of those hidden states August 4 1961 would have a phony record made up and then he would be secretly trained to be President so that he could turn the nation into a socialist country?

    I understand that when the child was 8 years old the press threatened to expose the plot. The conspirators deflected attention from it by inventing an absurd story about people landing on the moon.

    some can't answer the old joke question: Who is buried in Grant's tomb?

    In case anyone's wondering, the correct answer is not "Grant." (-;

    Peter Ansoff
     
  14. NAVA1974

    NAVA1974 Active Member

  15. Robin Hickman

    Robin Hickman Well-Known Member

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    MAYBE . . . . .


    MAYBE NOT . . . . .


    BUT . . . . .


    They NEVER Really Tell You What Color The White House Is, Do They ???



    Robin Hickman
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  16. Peter Ansoff

    Peter Ansoff USA Flag Site Admin

    The National Park Service thinks Gen. Grant is buried there.

    Well, arguably, nobody is buried there. The General and his wife are interred above ground, not buried.

    I was intrigued by one of the "Q&A" items in the link that Nick provided. Apparently there are no restrooms at Grant's tomb, because his wife (Julia Dent Grant), specifically said that she did not want any restrooms near her resting place.

    Peter Ansoff
     
  17. CMSskip

    CMSskip New Member

  18. Robin Hickman

    Robin Hickman Well-Known Member

  19. CMSskip

    CMSskip New Member

    Re: Were there 57 states?

    how ironic my last post was # 57:p
     
  20. name

    name New Member

    i also though there r 52 coz i wasnt confident with the design of the flag nor history of usa

    the truth is that people think there r 52 startes coz they think that the 50 states are in the country and 2 are outside of the country, they think that flag has 50 stars coz only the states on the continent (below canada) count, the other states dont count to the country(hawaii,alaska)... and when all states are calculated together then they say 52,

    they dontk now that there are 48 states on the continent and 2 are outside of the main country.
     

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