[american_flag_uk]

Rubbish.

go do some proper research

[Peter Ansoff]

Robert what you say isinteresting, I ask you to watch the news when bush is at the u.n. look at the flags of the in the back ground they dont have a gold trim , gold tassel ,or eagle on top.that is the flag of our contract with the fed govt. the U.S govt. represents us to the world ,that flag tells the world of our contract for the U.S to be our representative to the world .Take from this what you will.
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I take from it that a fringe on a flag is an optional decoration -- some flags have them and some don't. The fringe has no symbolic meaning whatsoever.

And BTW, my name is not "Robert."

Peter Ansoff

[bronny49]

Peter:

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth. Here is a site that has the official word on this:

http://www.tioh.hgda.pentagon.mil/FAQ/FringeOnAmFlg.htm


The text states that the fringe is honorary only and is as old as 1835 and used by the Army from 1895. "There is no record of an Act of Congress or Executive Order which either prescribes or prohiibits the additoon of fringe, nor is there any indication that any symbolism was ever associated with it. The use of fringe is optional with the preson or organization displaying the flag."

The US Congress sells them and they can be ordered as flown from the Capitol or not.

I was a Federal Employee for 30 years and every office of a local office manager and headquartes officials at certain grade levels had one on a stand. The text cited also states that they are not customarily used on flag poles or on caskets.

Ron Bowers

[Peter Ansoff]

Hi, Ron!

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth.

Of course it is. The text of the E.O. is readily available online (I've included the link in a couple of my earlier posts), and it doesn't say anything at all about fringes. Wouldn't it be great if these folks would actually read the E.O., instead of posting all this blather?

Thanks for your post -- it's really good to know that there are some reasonable people out there!

Peter A.

[John Lowe]

There is a typo in the url: it should be hqda, not hgda.

Also there is a typo in the information itself. It says "internment" but obviously means "interment." I doubt we ever waste good flags on prisoners; the dead are more worthy.

JLowe

Originally Posted by bronny49

Peter:

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth. Here is a site that has the official word on this:

http://www.tioh.hgda.pentagon.mil/FAQ/FringeOnAmFlg.htm


The text states that the fringe is honorary only and is as old as 1835 and used by the Army from 1895. "There is no record of an Act of Congress or Executive Order which either prescribes or prohiibits the additoon of fringe, nor is there any indication that any symbolism was ever associated with it. The use of fringe is optional with the preson or organization displaying the flag."

The US Congress sells them and they can be ordered as flown from the Capitol or not.

I was a Federal Employee for 30 years and every office of a local office manager and headquartes officials at certain grade levels had one on a stand. The text cited also states that they are not customarily used on flag poles or on caskets.

Ron Bowers

[american_flag_uk]

'Wouldn't it be great if these folks would actually read the E.O., instead of posting all this blather?'


lol! absolutely

[rltw]

So, i forgot where i heard this from, but i heard that for the gold fringe, each little tassle or fringe was representing each conflict or battle that the U.S. was involved in. I havent heard no one else mention this, has anyone heard of that also?

[american_flag_uk]

nope - i would say that is a big pile of tush!!!

[Peter Ansoff]

Actually, "rltw" may have been referring to the Campaign and Service streamers that the US Army displays on their service and unit flags. The streamers are attached to the top of the flag staff, and carry the names of campaigns and battles that the unit participated in, as well as awards that it has received.

The streamer system was created in the 1920s. Previously, battle honors had been inscribed directly on the flags. You'll see many examples of Civil War regimental colors (from both sides) that carry the names of the battles that the regiment took part in.

You can read about the Army streamer system here

CAMPAIGN, WAR SERVICE AND UNIT AWARD STREAMERS

on the web site of the US Army Institute of Heraldry.

Peter Ansoff

[american_flag_uk]

well that would make sence... i thought he was talkin about each little tassle on the fringe around a US flag