[robbaptista]

where do you come off with your logic?I dont know how old you are or where you got your sodo education ,The eagle is a symble of hitlers germany .simple enough,except it is first the flag of the roman empire --the catholic church. I was giving my belief on whats going on with our world ,I am not interestd in arguing about about anything only extension of diolog for all of our increased learning .If we think more and speek together in a more politely ,I think we will work out our problem .Im my view it is the U.S,govt. They devide and are conquering us .we need to unite in the law of the Constitution .Then we will stay free to debate .What do we want for our kids ? I want them to be free for life . There are places in the world we would not travel to becaust its not to safe ,and personal respect ,feeling safe ,freadom to create and make things better if they choose.so what I stated on our flag for me are true .This is info. from a mighty professer avid - Wynn: Miller. ( DWNLC.COM ) . He has sued the us govt.over 150 times ,a winner in each case ,at the world court . For braking the constituional law Title 18 sec 1001, or (fictitious conviense of language for the extortion of rights ) against the people of the united states .

[robbaptista]

Robert what you say isinteresting, I ask you to watch the news when bush is at the u.n. look at the flags of the in the back ground they dont have a gold trim , gold tassel ,or eagle on top.that is the flag of our contract with the fed govt. the U.S govt. represents us to the world ,that flag tells the world of our contract for the U.S to be our representative to the world .Take from this what you will.
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[american_flag_uk]

Rubbish.

go do some proper research

[Peter Ansoff]

Robert what you say isinteresting, I ask you to watch the news when bush is at the u.n. look at the flags of the in the back ground they dont have a gold trim , gold tassel ,or eagle on top.that is the flag of our contract with the fed govt. the U.S govt. represents us to the world ,that flag tells the world of our contract for the U.S to be our representative to the world .Take from this what you will.
e

I take from it that a fringe on a flag is an optional decoration -- some flags have them and some don't. The fringe has no symbolic meaning whatsoever.

And BTW, my name is not "Robert."

Peter Ansoff

[bronny49]

Peter:

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth. Here is a site that has the official word on this:

http://www.tioh.hgda.pentagon.mil/FAQ/FringeOnAmFlg.htm


The text states that the fringe is honorary only and is as old as 1835 and used by the Army from 1895. "There is no record of an Act of Congress or Executive Order which either prescribes or prohiibits the additoon of fringe, nor is there any indication that any symbolism was ever associated with it. The use of fringe is optional with the preson or organization displaying the flag."

The US Congress sells them and they can be ordered as flown from the Capitol or not.

I was a Federal Employee for 30 years and every office of a local office manager and headquartes officials at certain grade levels had one on a stand. The text cited also states that they are not customarily used on flag poles or on caskets.

Ron Bowers

[Peter Ansoff]

Hi, Ron!

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth.

Of course it is. The text of the E.O. is readily available online (I've included the link in a couple of my earlier posts), and it doesn't say anything at all about fringes. Wouldn't it be great if these folks would actually read the E.O., instead of posting all this blather?

Thanks for your post -- it's really good to know that there are some reasonable people out there!

Peter A.

[John Lowe]

There is a typo in the url: it should be hqda, not hgda.

Also there is a typo in the information itself. It says "internment" but obviously means "interment." I doubt we ever waste good flags on prisoners; the dead are more worthy.

JLowe

Originally Posted by bronny49

Peter:

I think the Executive Order re military use is a myth. Here is a site that has the official word on this:

http://www.tioh.hgda.pentagon.mil/FAQ/FringeOnAmFlg.htm


The text states that the fringe is honorary only and is as old as 1835 and used by the Army from 1895. "There is no record of an Act of Congress or Executive Order which either prescribes or prohiibits the additoon of fringe, nor is there any indication that any symbolism was ever associated with it. The use of fringe is optional with the preson or organization displaying the flag."

The US Congress sells them and they can be ordered as flown from the Capitol or not.

I was a Federal Employee for 30 years and every office of a local office manager and headquartes officials at certain grade levels had one on a stand. The text cited also states that they are not customarily used on flag poles or on caskets.

Ron Bowers

[american_flag_uk]

'Wouldn't it be great if these folks would actually read the E.O., instead of posting all this blather?'


lol! absolutely

[rltw]

So, i forgot where i heard this from, but i heard that for the gold fringe, each little tassle or fringe was representing each conflict or battle that the U.S. was involved in. I havent heard no one else mention this, has anyone heard of that also?

[american_flag_uk]

nope - i would say that is a big pile of tush!!!